HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
FILTER CHEBYSHEV HIGH PASS N=9 - 50/50 Ohm - UNBALANCED
From prototype to finished filter
The filter is built on a one side PC board used as a soldering reference ground plane for minimising parasitic inductances. All components are assembled on this board prior to mounting inside the die cast enclosure. I was worried about parasitic coupling among the coils, due to close proximity, but filter attenuation @ 1.5 MHz is very similar to that of the original prototype (#6) so this problem did not materialise. Another worry was what would happen with closing the lid, but no detrimental IN/OUT coupling was detected.
Coil formers were made with 20 mm dia. PVC electrical conduit pipe and no detrimental effects on coil Q was detected. Once the filter is mounted inside the enclosure and tested, it is advisable to glue the base of each coil former to the PC board with bi-component epoxy resin.
Later today antenna attenuation of LW and MW band will be tested on the RSPduo and reported.
From prototype to finished filter
The filter is built on a one side PC board used as a soldering reference ground plane for minimising parasitic inductances. All components are assembled on this board prior to mounting inside the die cast enclosure. I was worried about parasitic coupling among the coils, due to close proximity, but filter attenuation @ 1.5 MHz is very similar to that of the original prototype (#6) so this problem did not materialise. Another worry was what would happen with closing the lid, but no detrimental IN/OUT coupling was detected.
Coil formers were made with 20 mm dia. PVC electrical conduit pipe and no detrimental effects on coil Q was detected. Once the filter is mounted inside the enclosure and tested, it is advisable to glue the base of each coil former to the PC board with bi-component epoxy resin.
Later today antenna attenuation of LW and MW band will be tested on the RSPduo and reported.
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- Chebyshev N=9 HI PASS FILTER DATA.jpg (106.49 KiB) Viewed 106530 times
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
FILTER CHEBYSHEV HIGH PASS N=9 - 50/50 Ohm - UNBALANCED
Practical results
Practical results
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- HP filter in operation.JPG (75.92 KiB) Viewed 106525 times
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- No HP Filter MW broadcast Band.jpg (264.92 KiB) Viewed 106526 times
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- HP Filter in MW broadcast band.jpg (262.72 KiB) Viewed 106526 times
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
FILTER CHEBYSHEV HIGH PASS N=9 - 50/50 Ohm - UNBALANCED
Practical results
NOTE: For the measurements of previous post and of this one there is a 550 to 50 Ohm toroid transformer between Beverage antenna & filter's input.
Practical results
NOTE: For the measurements of previous post and of this one there is a 550 to 50 Ohm toroid transformer between Beverage antenna & filter's input.
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- While @ 3.6 MHz is business as usual....jpg (191.62 KiB) Viewed 106501 times
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- Spectrum 0-1500 KHz - No HP filter.jpg (192.99 KiB) Viewed 106503 times
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- Spectrum 0-1500 KHz with HP filter.jpg (179.73 KiB) Viewed 106503 times
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
FILTER CHEBYSHEV HIGH PASS N=9 - 50/50 Ohm - UNBALANCED
Filter performance near cutoff with Network Analyser- 1
Filter performance near cutoff with Network Analyser- 1
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- Measurement setup with AA30 Network Analyser
- Measurement setup.JPG (152.49 KiB) Viewed 106468 times
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- Return loss near the 2 MHz cutoff frequency better than 12 dB
- HIGH PASS R.L. 1-3MHz.jpg (113.86 KiB) Viewed 106468 times
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- SWR near the 2 MHz cutoff frequency 1.6 max.
- HIGH PASS SWR 1-3 MHz.jpg (65.35 KiB) Viewed 106468 times
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FILTER CHEBYSHEV HIGH PASS N=9 - 50/50 Ohm - UNBALANCED
Filter performance 2 to 10 & 2 to 29 MHz with Network Analyser- 2
Filter performance 2 to 10 & 2 to 29 MHz with Network Analyser- 2
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- HIGH PASS SWR 1-10 MHz.jpg (67.37 KiB) Viewed 106444 times
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- HIGH PASS SWR 1-29 MHz.jpg (67.62 KiB) Viewed 106444 times
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- HIGH PASS R.L. 1-29 MHz.jpg (64.44 KiB) Viewed 106444 times
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
Responding to the original post of the thread..
For the one scenario I didn't see, 500 ohm longwire and 50 ohm radio.
Would I build a 500 in/500 out filter with a 500/50 transformer on the output of the filter or a 50/50 filter with a 500/50 transformer on the input of the filter? Or can it be done through filter values and no transformers?
For the one scenario I didn't see, 500 ohm longwire and 50 ohm radio.
Would I build a 500 in/500 out filter with a 500/50 transformer on the output of the filter or a 50/50 filter with a 500/50 transformer on the input of the filter? Or can it be done through filter values and no transformers?
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
Hi Mark,
In the last posts I have finalised construction and performance measurements for the 50 Ohm to 50 Ohm filter. This filter is useful for connecting a 50 Ohm antenna feedline to a 50 Ohm input of the RSP receiver. If you wish you can place a 10:1 low noise transformer at the filter's input (560 to 50 Ohm) and connect through the filter a long wire antenna to the 50 Ohm input of the RSP receiver.
Two days ago I have started the construction of the Chebyshev filter N=9, r=1.5 dB, ZIN/ZOUT=0.6 - PROTOTYPE #7: this filter had been designed for connecting directly a 600 Ohm long wire antenna to the 1 KOhm Hi Z balanced input of the RSP2 or the RSPduo. Unfortunately I have found that the coils developed for the prototype (prototype #7) are too large and do not fit in the 1590 BS Hammond die cast enclosure I have purchased. Furthermore I have found, measuring prototype #7 with the Network Analyser, that SWR becomes too high past 4 MHz and this problem is caused by the 0.6:1 ratio between input and output. For this reason I have re-designed the filter for a 1:1 ratio, eg. 560 to 560 Ohm. This filter will connect to the long wire antenna directly and will have at the output a 1:2 ratio wideband, low noise transformer matching the 1 KOhm HI Z input of the RSP receiver. By changing this transformer, e.g. using a 10:1 ratio, 560 to 50 Ohm, it will be possible to couple a long wire antenna to a 50 Ohm input.
For the practical realisation of this filter I need smaller coils. I tested iron powder toroid coils made with type 1 material, e.g. Micrometals T50-1, but Q is too low: Q<120 @ 2 Mhz. So I have developed a new layout with air core coils (Q=200) and am presently building the filter which will fit into the box. I expect to be ready for measurements and do them over the weekend. I also inted to write a post dedicated to the practical realisation of low noise wideband toroid transformers together with Network Analyser measurement data.
Kind regards,
glovisol
In the last posts I have finalised construction and performance measurements for the 50 Ohm to 50 Ohm filter. This filter is useful for connecting a 50 Ohm antenna feedline to a 50 Ohm input of the RSP receiver. If you wish you can place a 10:1 low noise transformer at the filter's input (560 to 50 Ohm) and connect through the filter a long wire antenna to the 50 Ohm input of the RSP receiver.
Two days ago I have started the construction of the Chebyshev filter N=9, r=1.5 dB, ZIN/ZOUT=0.6 - PROTOTYPE #7: this filter had been designed for connecting directly a 600 Ohm long wire antenna to the 1 KOhm Hi Z balanced input of the RSP2 or the RSPduo. Unfortunately I have found that the coils developed for the prototype (prototype #7) are too large and do not fit in the 1590 BS Hammond die cast enclosure I have purchased. Furthermore I have found, measuring prototype #7 with the Network Analyser, that SWR becomes too high past 4 MHz and this problem is caused by the 0.6:1 ratio between input and output. For this reason I have re-designed the filter for a 1:1 ratio, eg. 560 to 560 Ohm. This filter will connect to the long wire antenna directly and will have at the output a 1:2 ratio wideband, low noise transformer matching the 1 KOhm HI Z input of the RSP receiver. By changing this transformer, e.g. using a 10:1 ratio, 560 to 50 Ohm, it will be possible to couple a long wire antenna to a 50 Ohm input.
For the practical realisation of this filter I need smaller coils. I tested iron powder toroid coils made with type 1 material, e.g. Micrometals T50-1, but Q is too low: Q<120 @ 2 Mhz. So I have developed a new layout with air core coils (Q=200) and am presently building the filter which will fit into the box. I expect to be ready for measurements and do them over the weekend. I also inted to write a post dedicated to the practical realisation of low noise wideband toroid transformers together with Network Analyser measurement data.
Kind regards,
glovisol
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
can you please let me know what it is that you used to generate the signal so you cold test your filter?
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
Hi Illlm,
I use a wideband noise generator sold on ebay for 15 USD approx. You can find details & pictures of the measurement setup here:
https://www.sdrplay.com/community/viewt ... f=5&t=3943
and here:
https://www.sdrplay.com/community/viewt ... f=5&t=3352
Remeber to use a supply voltage of maximum 10 V with the noise generator. Higher voltages are not safe as I discovered to my own cost.
glovisol
I use a wideband noise generator sold on ebay for 15 USD approx. You can find details & pictures of the measurement setup here:
https://www.sdrplay.com/community/viewt ... f=5&t=3943
and here:
https://www.sdrplay.com/community/viewt ... f=5&t=3352
Remeber to use a supply voltage of maximum 10 V with the noise generator. Higher voltages are not safe as I discovered to my own cost.
glovisol
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Re: HIGH PASS FILTER FOR OPTIMUM HF RECEPTION
HIGH IMPEDANCE FILTER CHEBYSHEV N=9 / 0.1 dB RIPPLE / 560 to 560 OHM
Development and construction of this filter with a new layout & winding coil method went much quicker than anticipated and I am able to upload some measurements taken on the finished filter assembly, before mounting into the die cast box. Filter performs well and offers a SWR below 1.5 up to 15 MHz and a SWR below 3 up to 29 MHz. All details in the next posts.
Development and construction of this filter with a new layout & winding coil method went much quicker than anticipated and I am able to upload some measurements taken on the finished filter assembly, before mounting into the die cast box. Filter performs well and offers a SWR below 1.5 up to 15 MHz and a SWR below 3 up to 29 MHz. All details in the next posts.
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- High Pass Chebyshev N=9, r=0.1 dB, 560 to 560 Ohm - Bandpass plot to 6 MHz
- HIP HI Z Bandpass 6 MHz.jpg (149.65 KiB) Viewed 106345 times
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- High Pass Chebyshev N=9, r=0.1 dB, 560 to 560 Ohm - SWR near cutoff frequency
- HP Hi Z 1K-3K SWR.jpg (102.69 KiB) Viewed 106345 times
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- High Pass Chebyshev N=9, r=0.1 dB, 560 to 560 Ohm - SWR to 10 MHz
- HP HI Z 1.5K-10K.jpg (103.57 KiB) Viewed 106345 times
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